January 2001 13:47
been reading the last few postings with a bit of confusion.
I see there is controversy over my "story" that
is causing some people to ask themselves if they believe it
or not. For quite a while, I have been stating that not only
do I not expect anyone to believe me, it's irrelevant and
in my opinion, quite dangerous. Belief implies that you accept
what I say as true and real. Over the Internet, this is impossible.
In fact, I have stated before, there are many people in 2036
who do not believe in time travel.
also think that unwavering belief is dangerous. One very disturbing
thing I have noticed about your society in general is your
blind acceptance of what you are told. Do you really think
the news industry doesn't have an agenda? Do you really think
those hamburgers you stuff into your body are safe? Do you
really think your government is telling you the truth? What
proof do you have of any of that?
I do want you to do is open your eyes to the events that happening
around you that have nothing to do with me. Some of you have
been reading for a while now about the war in 2015 and the
breakthroughs in particle physics that would be coming soon.
Doesn't the CIA report on 2015 and news on the z-field compression
at least support what I've been saying a little bit?
just saw another story today about the Russians moving Nukes
into the Balkans to thwart any future expansion by NATO. I
also haven't heard anyone take me up on my "information
experiment" on the IBM 5100 or check out the information
I've given you about the UNIX failure in 2038. With all due
respect, I find it hard to take some of you seriously.
January 2001 13:46
2036, community life is a bit different. People are valued
and judged based on their contribution and worth. Work is
organized around the family and the value of that work is
assessed inside of the community. Most communities range in
size from 1000 to 4000 people. If a family wanted to move
from one community to another or if a son or daughter wanted
to move to another community, they must apply and be interviewed
by the community leadership council. During this process,
the family or individual is evaluated as to whether or not
the work or skill they have is required or necessary to that
individual community. Once accepted, the family or individual
is expected to uphold their end of the work and support the
community. If they don't, the community stops supporting them
and they are forced to change their attitude or move away
from the community.
family work we did was picking, sorting and shipping oranges
by sailboat up and down the coast of Florida. We were expected
to produce a certain amount for the community and a certain
amount for other communities as agreed to by our CLC. In exchange,
we received power, water, a certain amount of food and other
necessities that were produced inside our community.
see this message board as a small community and I have no
other way to value the contributions of others on it other
than what my past experiences tell me. I have tried to answer
as many questions as I can without being annoying, repetitive
or inappropriate, and for some of you, entertaining. Under
these conditions, I have decided to seek guidance from all
of you, the other members of this community, as to whether
or not my postings are of any value to the direction of these
discussions. If they are getting distracting or repetitive,
I will stop and continue to enjoy reading your thoughts and
receives the Nobel Prize for time travel? Since you claim
no two worldlines are the same, this information could not
are a great many people involved with the discovery of time
travel. Just as I will not give "stock tips", I
will not divulge their names as that may impact their lives
would happen if you gave us technical information that's discovered
in a year or so?
I had any and I published them, I'm sure they may have a large
impact. Unfortunately, I don't have any with me. Even if I
did, I'm sure they would be scrutinized. Again we get back
to the same question. If you were a time traveler, what would
you do to establish your credibility?
any other time travelers visited your future in 2036?
I am not aware of time travelers visiting my worldline in
2036. However, that does not mean it can't or isn't happening.
Also, the possible number of worldlines a time traveler might
arrive at would place the chances of them hitting any particular
one at very long odds.
happens to (name of person asking question)? Am I involved
in Time Travel? What of the (armed) resistance?
have no idea what happens to you in your future. There was
a resistance on my worldline but their goal was to maintain
power and control over other people. We killed most of them
big is the IBM 5100?
would say its about 20" long, 10" high and 30"
and I are not getting along.
not aware we had a falling out. I apologize if you think that's
there still books in 2036?
books are still published.
there restrictions to what you can do with the time machine?
displacement machine is not mine but I am free to make certain
decisions based on the experiences and information I gather
from each worldline. I am expected back but from their perspective,
I will only have been gone for a split second.
January 2001 13:10
is the progress on string theory?
doesn't love string theory? Please forgive the next few comments,
I'm trying to be cryptic and jump starting my memory at the
same time. In 2036, string theory still dominates physics
due to its continued "effect" of encompassing other
physical properties from unrelated fields.
great deal of the theoretical mathematics behind time travel
was discovered by testing various ideas in string theory and
eliminating the anomalies. As I recall, it was this original
work that led to the final proof that six dimensions do indeed
curl up to give us our observable universe. This in turn supported
more of the theoretical math behind time travel.
ironic that the beauty of string theory gives future engineers
the confidence to create the distortion unit even though the
final proof is still unknown. You're a physics student, have
you ever heard the Princeton String Quartet play?
January 2001 09:28
don't you give us more detailed information about the future
so we won't be so skeptical?
think skepticism is a good thing and no one should lose it.
don't you accept my challenge? What harm could it do?
not sure what "challenge" you are referring to.
If you mean the live chat, I have no problem with that. I
do that quite often on other boards. However, I fear I have
very few bread and circuses left and I fear I am becoming
quite boring. Also, I'm not sure I fully understand the nature
of the challenge.
could still give us details about the future that wouldn't
harm anyone and still add to your credibility.
I do not seek to add to my credibility. There is no point
to it. Actually, by providing information that was useful,
I would be adding to your collective fear that I am real.
In that case, this cycle we are in concerning "truth"
only spirals and gets worse.
can't you name the five presidents you have in your time?
the past few postings, I have tried to describe the limits
of what I will talk about and why. Here is a short recap list.
In future postings, I will place the following number next
to each question as to why I will not discuss it.
I will not disclose any information that will cause someone
to personally gain by its knowledge. This means no stock or
I will not disclose any detailed information that would allow
someone to avoid death by probability. This means no earthquake
or bombing information.
I will not disclose any information that may compromise any
future actions by individual people or threaten their family
my worldline, we are no longer afraid of the "NWO".
Are you afraid of Nazis?
reason the job of President was split into an office of 5
has 4 main reasons. With 5 (presidents), foreign policy is
more consistent, power shifting between parties has less of
an impact on the overall government, individual strengths
between presidents add to the strength of the overall office,
and one president is elected for each major area in the United
is the extent of Presidential power in 2036?
office of President is far more diluted and decentralized
than it is here. The powers of the national government are
more defined and reside more at the county and state level.
is the new government like in 2036 compared to the current
think the new government is good. However, since the concept
of nationally subsidized welfare is gone, most people here
may not appreciate it.
is the new US capitol?
new US capitol is in Omaha Nebraska.
do the 5 presidents take power?
voting for individual candidates is on a rotating schedule.
are the other time traveler's destinations, and missions?
am not aware of the details of other missions. Of the seven,
three had already left before I did. I suspect they are on
any other time travelers on our current worldline?
the chances of that are very slim.
you in contact with other time travelers?
although I would suspect that is not impossible I have no
idea how you would do that.
it possible to send a message through time?
the information physically travels with the person; none that
I'm aware of.
January 2001 12:24
apologize for being unable to respond faster. I looked back
and couldn't find any questions but I may be mistaken.
also see that you seem to have a great deal of anger directed
at me. If you knew where I was and how to get the distortion
unit, what would you do? What judgment and punishment should
be passed upon me?
this and many other discussion boards are people who are genuinely
interested in and hoping to experience or discover time travel.
What punishment would you apply to them if the succeed? I
see that you too have had time travel experience. What punishment
do you deserve?
time travel was discovered, there were many people who were
against its development. However, once the true nature of
time was realized, the resistance faded. Even if one worldline
was able to ban, kill and stop all time travel, it will continue
the corollary is also true. Take heart, on some worldline,
you have succeeded and all time travelers are dead by the
hand of your followers and thinking or talking about it is
we should all agree what we mean when we use the phrase "time
travel". We are all moving forward in time just by existing
and the effects of acceleration and gravity do "slow"
time down for the observer so the rest of the world seems
to speed up around them.
we call this natural time travel (time-like trips on a single
worldline) then perhaps its really controlled time travel
that you are after (space-like trips on a single worldline
or traveling to alternate worldlines).
that, it may then be useful to separate the concept of controlled
time travel into theory and practice. In theory, time travel
was taken seriously by mainstream science when it discovered
that Einstein's equations do indeed support the possibility
of controlled time travel under special relativity. Since
special relativity (under its current limitations) has been
proved useful and accurate in predicting other physical phenomena,
it is widely believed that controlled time travel is also
all of the solutions that allow time travel in special relativity
also have the annoying problem of crushing the time traveler
in a wake of radiation and gravity.
my experience, there is only one safe way to obtain controlled
time travel and that involves the "safe" properties
of a Kerr singularity (black hole). However, I do not discount
the possibility of other methods either physical or metaphysical.
I'm just not sure I would bet my life on them without any
math to back them up.
January 2001 01:13
January 2001 23:10
mentioned a divergence percentage between time lines. How
is it possible to measure divergence?
measurement for worldline divergence is an observation variable
isolated to the distortion unit. An effective analogy would
be a "gravity radar". The unit's sensors take a
"snapshot" of the local gravity around the unit
before a flight. During travel, this baseline is periodically
checked to make sure there are no major changes in the environment
that would cause a catastrophic mass failure (brick wall appearing
from nowhere). The percentage of VGL divergence from one worldline
to another is a calculated guess by the three computers that
control the unit based on its starting point. It is useless
in describing characteristics of individual worldlines.
is a bit of folklore about the first distortion driver who
reaches a destination with a zero divergence. This would mean
they had traveled on a space-like trip to their own worldline
of origin. This paradox is quite possible although highly
unlikely. I wonder if anyone out there can take current string
theory and make that one work on paper?
said 6 curled up dimensions. The current string theory suggests
that there should be at least 7.
may be mistaken but I thought it was pretty well established
now that (N-10) was on track.
January 2001 09:04
must admit (forum name), you have succeeded in confusing me.
The more I read your postings, the more I question my understanding
and local use of social interaction, courtesy and logic. However,
I also believe that all viewpoints have some inherent value
even if it's not apparent.
take it you won't answer my last post?
took a look at your last posting and didn't see any questions.
However, I now realize that I may be mistaken in assuming
much of what you wrote was rhetorical. In may be helpful if
you add some indication that you are asking a question you
wish someone to comment on.
you're from the future, than you should know what happens
to (personal names of people on forum)? Am I involved in time
This is the only question
I found from your postings that you could be referring to.
Again, I have no knowledge of you in any possible future nor
would I comment on it if I did. As far as the photograph of
me in a uniform, I'm not sure what that would prove even if
I had one.
you speak to me anymore, I will probably discredit your claims
of being a time traveler.
do not seek credit for anything. The most I hope for (for
the most part) is to be at least interesting and engaging.
you want meet my challenge (to talk online), I await your
I was unclear before. I did provide the web link earlier that
does have a chat room set up for time travel. My schedule
is a bit more flexible right now at least for the next week
or so. Please take a look and let me know when you will be
there (open to anyone of course). Since there really is nothing
to be gained or lost, I look at this not as a challenge but
more of an opportunity to get to know everyone better.
need to answer people more quickly. You answer questions only
when it is convenient for you. Your answers appear to be just
enough to satisfy someone but you have enough time to just
look it up in a book.
not sure what you mean by that. In earlier postings, I have
stated that I'm trying to avoid repeating myself and frankly
there are some items that are just over my head or that I
have no knowledge of. It is curious that you feel knowledge
can be something owned or somehow that becomes less worthwhile
if it's passed on.
future seems to be fixated on killing people. Isn't there
a criminal justice system or do you just enjoy killing people?
you could take the dialogue in question and post it with your
question. However, if I understand you, you're asking about
death on my worldline. Yes, it is more a part of our lives
than it is yours (at least for now) and capitol punishment
is a reality.
January 2001 11:49
don't believe I ever said I came back looking for a UNIX bug
fix. I came back for a computer system. Don't you find UNIX
is about the same although there were anomalies after the
curious.... what does everyone think of "IT"? (Ginger)
January 2001 12:04
the post that follows, I've tried to answer the latest questions
directed at me but I am hoping you all may be able to add
some insight into something I've noticed. In our attempt to
communicate here, some of the comments on this board have
become increasingly hostile and negative. I see the same type
of interaction when I watch news interview programs.
guise of productive interaction and communication is thwarted
by illogical verbal attacks and misdirection. I understand
why the news does it. They are trying to hold an audience
by generating conflict. For a while, I thought that was the
goal here too but it appears that anger and conflict is being
created on this site to cause genuine harm and pain. Its hard
for me to believe that this is being done on purpose so I
have concluded I simply do not understand some hidden element
of your collective social interaction.
the other hand, if its being done for no reason, I would understand
a little better how people in this time could accomplish so
much and yet be so vulnerable to their emotions and fears.
I think it was Thomas Jefferson who believed that the only
way to sway opinion was through calm, respectful, intelligent
I'm a time traveler or not, I suppose there are numerous ways
to view my "story". By the nature of the communication
medium, I believe it's impossible to prove therefore it's
impossible to believe. I agree that conversation spurs ideas.
If I'm not a time a time traveler, than perhaps the seemingly
disjointed statements I make will actually create the idea
in one of you that leads to "real" time travel.
is a WORLDLINE?
worldlines represent the limits and paths physical objects
take through space-time under the laws of special relativity.
They can be shown graphically on an x-y graph with x representing
distance in space and y representing passing of time. In time
travel talk, worldlines are used as a way to describe and
separate the experiences of a time traveler because various
laws of special relativity appear to breakdown and can't be
defined on a single worldline. (The word) Worldline has also
become synonymous with "alternate universe" and
/ or "time-line".
admitted to taking things back with you. Do you pay for those
pay for these items with money. Personally, I believe stealing
you just take what ever you wanted back with you?
are mass limits to what can be taken back.
you tested mentally before becoming a time traveler? What
makes a good time traveler?
there are numerous psychological tests. I was chosen based
on my educational background and military service. The training
lasted about two years. There is a great deal of physical
training to counter the physical effects of distortion. They
were also looking for drivers who had a fair amount of self-sufficiency
and an ability to function under extreme isolation and confinement.
do they look for when choosing someone for a mission?
on the mission, time travelers are usually chosen for a particular
mission based on their ability to gain the cooperation of
someone related to the goal on the target worldline. In my
case, my grandfather was directly involved with the building
and programming of the 5100.
a time traveler is bad and commits murder or goes crazy, is
there anyway they can be recalled?
is a difference of philosophy between us that should be clarified.
Since I believe that all possible outcomes and events are
possible, probable and certain, it is impossible to assign
"goodness" or "badness" to a person or
some other worldline, I am an insane time traveler causing
destruction and death while (name of forum member who confronts
John on a regular basis) chases me with his band of devoted
followers. However, on this one, I am not. Since both events
are certain, their value is neutral.
can only assign goodness and badness to the events and experiences
you have direct control over or witness. Only actions are
good and bad, not people or things. I suppose if I was a psychotic
killer, I could accomplish my mission, avoid capture and still
return to my worldline of origin without penalty. There would
be no way for them to know what happened. However, I believe
that action is wrong and I would be accountable to my God.
exactly is "IT" since no one will know for sure
until probably 2002 according to news reports?
suppose this question is my own fault. As a time traveler,
I am expected to know every winning horse and hot stock as
well as the weather in all parts of the world at all times.
I was genuinely interested in your opinion of how "IT"
was being presented and advertised. Do you feel manipulated?
Do you think it's really a big deal? Do you like the way the
news is dealing with it?
do you know our worldline and yours will follow the same path?
worldline and my own are almost exactly alike.
January 2001 13:36
you for considering the problem of (my) returning home. You
seem to have stumbled on an intuitive proof of some of the
physics of time travel. You are correct, getting back to the
worldline of origin is easier than picking an exact destination
on a different worldline.
wrote down the graphic you outlined. If y1 starts perpendicular
to x1 and x2 and is rotated, where is the center of rotation?
I imagined it between x1 and x2. If this is so, wouldn't y1
end up parallel between x1 and x2 with each one being 6 inches
away from y1 on either side?
the microsingularity that powers your time machine physically
reduce the size of objects during operation?
there are 2 singularities in the unit. The gravity field is
manipulated by three factors that affect it in distinct ways.
Adding electric charge to the singularities increases the
diameter of the inner event horizons. Adding mass to the singularities
increases the area of gravitational influence around the singularities.
Rotating and positioning the polar axis of the singularities
affects and alters the gravity sinusoid.
effects of the gravity produced by the unit do not have enough
time to significantly alter physical objects within a reasonable
distance from the outside of the sinusoid. No, things do not
the electron injection system alters the shape of the field,
would that not force the unit to accelerate through space
as well as time?
is no relative movement in space due to three main factors.
Large, kinetic energy inducing effects of the gravity field
are compensated for by the interaction of the singularities.
The mass of the unit and any objects inside the sinusoid do
not exhibit any huge increases on the departure worldline
during travel. The observed path of the traveler is obtained
by changing the gravity, not by moving the vehicle. The black
hole comes to you.
question is define "time".
me, time has two definitions. I see time as a mathematical
component of a 10 dimensional super universe. It is a variable
I use to define my location and existence.
also see time as a metaphysical compromise our senses use
to define the area of collective existence God has placed
I can measure and sense time, I know I am not with God.
January 2001 10:43
know you have a hidden agenda. You have not made clear your
motives and are only giving us very little proof. Why are
you holding back?
assured there is nothing I have planned in my "hidden
agenda" that will make anyone's life any worse than it
already might be.
I right? You do a lot of work in the background of our society?
plan to leave soon. There is nothing I can do here that will
affect my home. My goals are based on the love I have for
my family. Actually, my interest in the past is a result of
going through piles of half burned books and magazines left
over from a war started by people you share this planet with
right now. On that note, perhaps its more interesting to consider
what I won't be doing to try and stop that war.
are your personal beliefs? Do you believe in God, which one?
Do you think the ends justify the means? Don't you have people
regulating Time Travel?
many Gods are there? I believe in just one. What are your
suggestions for regulating time? Perhaps a list of your "time
rights" would be something to spark conversation on the
are a cheater of life. Why can't your worldline fend for itself?
You take the solution from us and threaten to change billions
of lives (here). Why don't you care about that?
just guessing that "cheater of life" is not a compliment.
I can't think of a reason why my actions would be immoral
and someone else's would not. You suggest I'm capable of changing
lives. I suggest that I'm no more capable of that than you
just not so sure you recognize your own potential. You don't
need a time machine to save or destroy people. If there was
another person doing the exact same things I was but they
didn't have a time machine, would they be putting billions
of lives at stake and suffer your judgment?
there any such thing as wrong for you?
I believe in wrong and right. I judge my actions based on
God's law. Is it wrong for me to murder? Yes it is. Is it
wrong for me to teach someone how to defend themselves and
they commit murder? No, I am not their keeper. Since I am
leaving, I will be incapable of causing any harm. But, what
damage will you do with anything I have said?
January 2001 11:29
the future, sociologists spend a great of time discussing
the collective mentality before the war that led to the demise
of "Homo Materia". Many of them point to an experiment
that was done in the 1970's or 1980's. The experiment isolated
various sizes of rat populations in varying cage sizes with
varying food and cleaning schedules. It was discovered that
no matter what, there was a certain ratio of rats to space
that once overtaken by population would always lead to aggressive
and destructive behavior in the rats until enough of them
had died or been killed to get back under the ratio. This
was true even when the rats that were given plenty of food
and had their cage cleaned every day.
the occasional school or office shooting and violent video
game, I can't help but think about that experiment every time
I see someone stranded on the highway or walking on the side
of the road carrying an empty gas can. I ask my parents why
we don't stop and help and they tell me they are afraid of
being attacked and of the possible consequences of helping
someone they don't know. I would respond by pointing out that
it's our duty to help someone, not just because it's the right
thing to do, but because we can never know that person's true
worth and the risk of losing then is too great.
didn't fully understand their stubbornness until I saw a news
story about a doctor who was sued for applying emergency first
aid to an accident victim who died. I believe your society
is biologically geared for self-destruction. However, I feel
strongly that does not excuse me from my responsibilities
as a temporary member of this community.
(name of poster on forum) is a bit quirky and eccentric, he
does belong to us. He's this community's quirky and eccentric
guy and although he can be aggravating, I can't help but feel
protective of him. As I'm sure most of us believe, under all
of his postings, he has some interesting things to say. When
I first read one of his postings, I first shook my head and
then I began to question my own understanding of not only
the English language but of the real meaning of the odd things
he brings up. If it's done on purpose, it's quite effective.
January 2001 15:11
trying to post a couple of times and seeing the number of
postings increase but not the pages, I assume it is limited
to 11 pages. Any thoughts?
January 2001 18:46
everyone. I've been away for a while so I apologize for not
getting back to these questions sooner. Since (personal name
from forum) brought up a few things I had addressed in the
mysterious mail that never made it to the board, I will post
it here. The others are responses from other questions.
are you so interested in the Constitution?
the war, the United States had split into five separate regions
based on the various factors and military objectives they
each had. There was a great deal of anger directed toward
the Federal government and a revival of states rights was
becoming paramount. However, in their attempt to create an
economic form of government, the political and military leaders
at the time decided to hold one last Constitutional Congress
in order to present a psychological cohesion from the old
this Congress, the leaders discovered and decided that coming
up with a new and better form of government was nearly impossible.
The original Constitution itself was not the problem it was
the ignorance of the people that lived under it.
you like your "new" Constitution?
my viewpoint, it's very effective. I am a very strong believer
in local or state's rights.
are you leaving to go home?
are certain windows I must wait for in order to leave. There
will be two this year. The first one opens this spring.
it possible for you to return to this time line once you leave?
with the machine I have now.
we all had time machines, would we end up destroying the rest
of the local worldlines?
everything is already happening and possible on different
worldlines, the answer is yes, and no.
appear to be a Libertarian who stresses the need for mankind
to get back to basics. You also seem to be a gun rights activist.
suppose from your vantage point that's a fair assessment.
I would call myself more of a centrist. Although I understand
the "gun rights" issue here, I cannot relate to
it all and it is a common point of argument with my mother.
keep saying her tune will change in about ten years and she'll
be cleaning shotguns in her sleep but it doesn't help. If
it makes you feel any better, I never shot anyone who wasn't
trying to kill me.
we're not as smart as you, can you help us solve the technical
problems of time travel?
you say "us", what do you mean? Do you mean "you"?
Where would you go if you had my machine? How do you think
the rest of the world would react to the U.S. having a time
machine and they didn't?
stated you went back in time from 2036 to 1975 with a near
2 percent divergence. You also said that a zero divergence
is a myth or technologically improbable.
a "ZD" is thought to be impossible. However, consider
that an exact entry point "may" not be necessary
to get home. The important factor is the path, not the destination.
Under multiple world theory, there are an infinite number
of "homes" that I could return to that don't have
me there. The divergence for that window is somewhere near
correct me if I don't understand. Are parallel universes created
by events in our own worldline?
universes exist independently of each other and only interact
to avoid the collapse of the wave function for any given particle
or event that you are looking at.
like to imagine it as a series of parallel lines crossed by
a wavy wave. Each point on the wavy line where a straight
line crosses it represents an alternate outcome. The multiple
"yous" on each worldline record a different result
for the activity of the particle.
World theory and parallel universes have never been proven.
It only exists as a way to explain various findings in quantum
mechanics. Just because people talk about it doesn't mean
agree with you that an explanation doesn't make it so. However
you can build a model to describe physical behavior. Even
if the model is not complete, its "truth" can be
measured by how well it predicts the behavior it describes.
did multiverse come from as a theory? Where is the evidence
of its existence?
believe the closest non-related evidence for multiple universes
right now comes from the physics (derived from special relativity)
of rotating (Kerr) black holes. If you examine a typical Penrose
map, science agrees that you can travel to "other universes"
through these cosmic oddities. They can't be different places
in your own universe (worldline) because you would have to
violate the speed of light limit to get there.
the existence of multiple universes is a reality from my viewpoint,
please allow me to disclose an idea we toss around a bit in
2036. Since all possibilities, outcomes and events are occurring
and exist simultaneously; it would mean there are multiple
universes out there where "you" are living a day
behind and a day ahead of the "you" on this universe.
are some who believe that memory is some sort of information
transfer or communication with the "yous" in the
past, across worldlines or universes. Although this is seemingly
quite ridiculous, if you think that could be true, than physics
tells us that the same information transfer from our future
selves on other worldlines is not only possible but certain.
Could it be that fantasy or "what if" scenarios
are actually future memory from an alternate "us"
on a future worldline?
to physics, there is no reason why this cannot be true.
January 2001 18:51
now see it plainly states the topics are limited to 11 pages.
I guess this only proves I'm not the brightest singularity
in multidimensional space-time.
January 2001 21:21
mission to go back in time seems rather pointless since you
stated earlier there is no way to get back to your exact starting
reality of infinite possibilities is rather difficult to get
a grip on and if it were not for the math, I would delegate
it to the realm of religion. I like to think of it as standing
in a room with mirrors on all the walls. I can look to my
right and left and see many "mes" all doing exactly
the same thing. If we all took a step to our right and passed
through a dimensional doorway to the next mirrored room, it
would be very difficult to tell if anything had changed. In
that sense, there are an infinite number of worldlines waiting
for me to return with the computer. If I can get to one of
them, I have completed my mission.
would seem then that another time traveler that looks like
you could arrive on your worldline of origin with another
IBM computer and no one would know the difference.
Seems like something they would do a lot of psychological
testing for before they sent us off.
January 2001 21:28
does it say it is limited to 11 pages?
was just trying to be clever. However, I am still unable to
see any postings past 412. Can everyone else see them?
I am a time traveler from the year 2036. I am on my way home
after getting an IBM 5100 computer system from the year 1975.
"time" machine is a stationary mass, temporal displacement
unit manufactured by General Electric. The unit is powered
by two, top-spin, dual-positive singularities that produce
a standard, off-set Tipler sinusoid.
will be happy to post pictures of the unit.
I have been communicating online with others who are interested
in time travel.
January 2001 09:45
you never showed us a picture of your uniform.
there are numerous places I have posted pictures. I believe
the links are still on the board.
haven't you commented on not caring about your original worldline?
not sure what you're asking. I think those statements speak
for themselves and your interpretation of them may be, unique.
January 2001 12:22
of the reasons I like this board so much is that the questions
are more thought out, the people seem to be a bit smarter
than normal and I'm not continually bombarded with questions
about stock tips. I will admit that on a conceptual level,
you are picking it up much faster than I did.
you leave your worldline, some of your friends and family
members will never see you again. That seems like a very immoral
thing to do.
not sure why you think it would be immoral. Don't soldiers
today go on duties they may not return from?
depends on how you define what the real "me" is.
If you consider the mirror example again, as all of the "mes"
step one room to the right, the family and friends in that
room (and the time traveler for that matter) would not be
able to tell the difference.
probability of us noticing a difference is based on the divergence
of the trip. If all events and outcomes are certain, there
are worldlines where I do return for every worldline I don't
return to. All the "moral" events would then balance
out to zero. Again, it's hard to judge good and bad outcomes,
only good and bad decisions.
the point of fixing something in one worldline if there's
an infinite number of worldlines where a problem doesn't exist?
actions and decisions are based on the knowledge we have in
our own worldline. Yes, the bell shaped curve is a useful
tool but if we are capable of change for the better than we
feel we should at least try.
if "I" don't return to my exact worldline, a similar
"me" probably will. Besides, I just look at it as
helping a worldline where their time traveling me didn't show
up but I did.
you said the people on your worldline would only experience
your being away for a split second. How can this be true if
you'll never return to that worldline?
I refer to the mirror example.
seems impossible that another you would return to the worldline
you originally came from.
not sure I said another time traveler "will" return,
I think I said they "could" return. The location/gravity
"map" I have of my path getting here could be duplicated
with a fairly high degree of accuracy. It's just that my machine
was not designed to do that.
think it's a mistake to rely on the concept of the impossible
when dealing with the reality of multiple worlds. Keep in
mind there are an infinite number of "yous" on infinite
worldlines having completely different experiences with "me".
stated that returning to your worldline of origin is thought
to be impossible.
"exact" ZD worldline that is.
initial flight was from 2036 to 1975 (61 yrs). I then went
from 1975 to 2000 (25 yrs.) Later this year, one of two favorable
windows will open and I will return to my 2036 (35 yrs.) I
am here now for personal reasons. The web page is not mine.
I have been speaking online for about three months and the
page is a collection of the various documents and pictures
I have sent to other individuals.
I realize there is no way for anyone to believe me with absolute
certainty so I hope I'm at least entertaining. You may be
interested to know that even in 2036, there are a large number
of people who don't believe in time travel. Are you sure the
world is round?
keep in mind the web site is not mine and I apologize for
the poor quality of the files. The photo you saw was taken
by me with a Polaroid camera manufactured here. The other
documents were duplicated by placing a book onto a copy machine
at a packaging and shipping store and then scanning and saving
for the printing technology in 2036, you may be surprised
at how many people use typewriters however I agree the documents
were probably not created that way.
too am very anxious to hear your thoughts and questions on
time travel / gravity displacement and any comments on the
Everett Wheeler Graham model.
the documents posted were printed from a computer printer,
is it really that hard to believe that manual typing is just
a bit more common in thirty years? After the war, many things
like manual printing machines, bicycles, sailboats and hand
tools were valued a great deal. I have noticed more people
in California are installing wood burning stoves.
realize my claims are a bit ridiculous but my intent is not
really to be believed. However, if I had an opportunity to
talk to a time traveler, I might ask questions like: How exactly
does the singularity sensor measure the expansion of the inner
event horizon or why does the reality of multiple worlds support
the religious dogma that there are no good or bad people just
good and bad decisions or what were the political motivations
that changed the U.S. Constitution?
In my experience, when it becomes necessary to convince someone
what I do for a living the only way to do that is to be related
to them. Everything else is immediately written off as a parlor
trick, even if they're standing in front of a cooling distortion
unit and I show them a dollar bill with the year 2029 on it.
the last few months, I have had numerous extended conversations
online and there are quite a few things I've said which can
easily be checked out but haven't. I get no pleasure out of
being right when it comes to CJD disease, war in the Middle
East or suffering people in far away lands. There's nothing
like the look on someone's face when you tell them 100,000
people will be dead tomorrow. In my travels, I have discovered
that most people really don't want to know about the future
because if its different than what they want it ticks them
off. Actually, I don't blame them.
means by which I travel in time is very physical. I require
a "machine" to do it. It weighs about 500 pounds
and gets quite hot. I do not own it and I did not build it.
Within limits, I will be happy to discuss how it works and
how "future" science thinks time works. No we have
not completed string theory yet but (N-10) seems to work pretty
far as the future goes, your worldline is about 2.5% different
than mine. This is a roughly cumulative measurement based
on my arrival in 1975. As far as I can tell right now, you
are headed toward the same events I would call "my history"
in 2036. However, the very nature of time travel states that
every worldline is unique and you are very much in control
of what you do and how you get there. Heck, the fact that
I'm here makes it different from mine.
have nothing to sell, and there is nothing I want anyone to
do. For all other time travelers out there, I have no tests
for you and I would enjoy discussing your feelings and experiences
after the war. To everyone else, while I'm here, I am very
interested in your philosophy, religious outlooks and speculations
January 2001 12:25
the Olympics still being played in the future?
a result of the many conflicts, no, there were no official
Olympics after 2004. However, it appears they may be revived
wouldn't it be possible to use that recording to go back to
your original starting point without any divergence at all?
it's better to say it's so highly improbable as to be considered
impossible. A good example is the concept of trying to get
closer to something by cutting the distance in half for every
step you take. Since the computer is basically making calculations
from an imperfect model of reality, there are no absolutes.
I also believe there is a theory that states you would have
to violate the speed of light limit to have a perfect ZD.
are there only two windows of opportunity for you to go back?
Does this have anything to do with the weather?
weather isn't a factor as much as gravitational tidal forces
are at the point of arrival.
disapprove of war because I think it's immoral. What do you
disapprove of murder. Man as a species is incapable of changing
his nature through will alone and war is a tool of biology.
The ability for war sleeps in each one of us and we must decide
what we will do before the beast awakens. As for morality,
again I point to the "universal" balance of good
and evil. For every worldline where there is peace, there
is a worldline that has destroyed itself.
the use of bringing back the computer to a slightly different
worldline since you know there are just as many worldlines
in which no-one returns to bring back computer?
decisions and actions we take as individuals can only help
those who we have direct interaction with. I believe it is
wrong to be capable of helping and do nothing. My struggle
is in the irony that if everyone just "did nothing",
on every worldline, there would be no action and thus no immorality
or evil (no good either).
very interested in your comments on the greed of humanity.
You're unique perspective of humanity at this point (2001
and 2036) is valuable.
feel free to ask anything you like.
you record a voice message for us before you leave?
I am considering trying to videotape my departure and having
my parents post it after I leave. That should keep you all
busy for a while.
sort of future do you imagine after 2036? Will we colonize
the solar system?
in mind that not all humans were destroyed but we were all
affected. There is an effort going into colonizing space because
it is believed that the problems of overpopulation were a
large cause of the war. Personally, my generation sees itself
as having a duty to try and repair the mess our fathers handed
to us. When we were young, most of us had a small taste of
the world you live in now and our only dream is to clean it
up and give it back to those still able to have children.
I imagine what it would be like to approach the Wright Brothers
in 1910, before their first flight, and make the suggestion
that in a mere thirty years, man would be on the brink of
flying through the air at the speed of sound.
tools would I be able to show them that would convince them?
Would a picture of a jet airplane do it? Would complicated
math and physics equations do it? Would it take a ride? Perhaps
there will be a way to share the photos again but I don't
expect it would convince anyone. I would only hope they would
spark conversation and make the reality of time travel a little
I have no personal experience with non-mechanical time travel,
I cannot discount it. Physics has a way of making the impossible
not here to study anyone. My objective was in 1975 and the
reason I'm here now is my family. I find my preconceptions
of what I would encounter interesting. Being exposed to a
society through its art, music and advertising is one thing
and experiencing it is another.
not sure the physics of time travel is really that hard to
grasp. Most of the working theory has been around on a large
scale since 1970 and the technical breakthroughs are happening
on your worldline right now.
is not gone in 2036 nor is it the private domain of "government"
leaders. Computer printers just didn't work very well on 12
volts and many people just got used to doing things the old
way. After the war, the main problem was distribution. Can
anyone tell me how many companies in the United States still
manufacture bicycle tires today? Anyone who still has a bike
in 2008 will find out.
not aware of any predictions I made or perhaps we do not agree
on the definition. What anyone chooses to do based on something
I might say will not affect me in the least. My goal is not
to believed and I submit that your life would not be any better
(and perhaps worse) if you did believe me. You placed "tests"
before me that I must pass. Why? What do I have to gain by
fact is there is nothing I can say or show you or let you
drop hydrochloric acid on that will "make" you believe
me and I really don't want that. It would be nice to discuss
your view on religion, politics, physics and the mechanical
requirements of time travel but in order to engage in those
types of conversations, I must apparently tell you who wins
the hockey game next week. I'm just guessing that if were
to write out the ten lines for Fermat's final proof you wouldn't
be very impressed either.
Industrialized mass production does not produce the uncountable
tonnage of useless consumer items so gleefully absorbed by
your society. I would estimate there are about 10 units like
mine (C204) and twenty larger units (C206). The main difference
is the sensitivity and number of the main Cesium clocks. I
would estimate that some sort of public time travel will be
common around 2045.
I'm not aware of any other time traveler's "here"
now. But if they are here, I'm sure they're pouring over sports
history books so they can go back in time another week and
start a friendly conversation on the web.
The "Mad Cow" story here is yet to begin but don't
worry, the fruited gelatin deserts are safe.
I'm glad to see it's so easy for to dismiss the Middle East.
Yes, I suppose it is a no brainer but pretty soon it will
be a "no arrmer" and a "no legger".
Ethics is an excellent topic of discussion and I hope we can
move past a collective insistence of applying everything to
this frame of reference.
distortion unit reaches its target destination by using very
sensitive gravity sensors and atomic clocks. The basic unit
of calculation is the second. So yes, in a sense you do "dial
in" in a date and the computer system controls the distortion
field. At maximum power, the unit I have is capable of traveling
about 10 years an hour.
time travel is not an exact science. There is inherent error
and chaos in the computers ability to make accurate calculations.
Based on the current technology of the clocks and sensors,
distortion units are only accurate to about 60 years or so.
So no, in 2036, we are unable to travel back 1000 years due
to the error rate in the system. The divergence between the
worldline of origin and the target worldline would be too
great. If one were to try and travel back that far, history
would look nothing like what you would expect.
unit has mass limits but the 204 is capable of transporting
about three people and equipment. I don't think you would
like 2036 very much.
5100 had a very simple and unique feature that IBM did not
account for and decided it was not in their best interest
to advertise (which in hindsight was not very smart). This
accidental feature was thus removed from any future desktop
computers. In order to take advantage of this feature, the
5100 I have now required a couple of special "tweaks"
that had to be done by one of the software engineers in 1975.
Anyone who is familiar with this feature and was told to keep
their mouth shut about it will be able to tell you what it
we still have toilet tissue and some people still suffer from
extreme anal fixation.
have noticed and gotten used to the act of verbal conflict
as a cathartic entertainment. I don't totally understand it
but I take no offense by it either. Perhaps we could just
arm wrestle some day and still be able to have a pleasant
year 2008 was a general date by which time everyone will realize
the world they thought they were living in was over. The civil
war in the United States will start in 2004. I would describe
it as having a Waco type event every month that steadily gets
worse. The conflict will consume everyone in the US by 2012
and end in 2015 with a very short WWIII.
source of power for the C204 that allows it to distort and
manipulate gravity comes from two microsingularities that
were created, captured and cleaned at a much larger and "circular"
facility. The dual event horizons of each one and their mass
is manipulated by injecting electrons onto the surface of
their respective ergospheres. The electricity comes from batteries.
The breakthrough that will allow for this technology will
occur within a year or so when CERN brings their larger facility
it would have been clearer to state that the math has been
around since 1970. I would urge you to examine the properties
of Kerr black holes and Tipler cylinders. An actual working
prototype was first tested in 2034. On my worldline, time
travel is not a public recreation but we are all aware that
it exists. You may be disappointed to know that the ability
to manipulate gravity is not the technical challenge that
had to be overcome.
the clocks and sensors, creating clever ways to vent x-rays
and creating a computer system dependable enough to calculate
the changes required to the field were the main challenges.
There are no missing pieces, just missing energy levels and
a few very interesting subatomic particles.